Carolyn: Congratulations on your Emmy nomination.

Kim: Thanks, I appreciate it.

Carolyn: Were you a judge, too?

Kim: Yes. Carolyn, babe, we have to talk.

Carolyn: I know. You're mad about what I said on The View during the Emmy nominations.

Kim: You're in deep shit because you discredited the work that a lot of us did in those rooms by saying we would vote for a CBS show because it was a CBS show. That CBS pulled together and voted for ourselves. Do you honestly believe that actors would vote for other actors just because they're on a CBS show?

Carolyn: There were 30 slots available in the acting categories, and 14 of them went to GL and ATWT actors. That's a big number.

Kim: So now you're narrowing it down even more by saying that P&G actors would vote for each other. Can I tell you something? We had one ABC person in the room [judging] Younger Leading Actor. That happened in a lot of those rooms. ABC did not come out. Some people said it was because All My Children people had worked late the night before, but if you want this process to work, you've got to be in it to win it.

Carolyn: Well, that kind of supports my point. If ABC actors don't show up to judge, then ABC doesn't get as many nominations. If the process worked the way you're saying it does, that shouldn't matter.

Kim: There were ABC people that were nominated; I'm sorry that the people that you thought should have been nominated weren't. It just happened that there were better actors on CBS, what can I say (laughs)? We have better casting directors, I guess. We've got a bigger pool of talent. I don't know what to tell ya!

Carolyn: That's another argument. There are four CBS shows vs. two NBC shows. Something's fishy that NBC did not get one major nomination. Say what you want about Passions, but John Reilly (Alistar) is a good actor.

Kim: Maybe he didn't submit the right tapes. I don't know what the solution is. Maybe it needs to be re-established that actors are to vote on what they're seeing. And if they're voting the way they should be voting, John Reilly would have been nominated. I actually gave very high marks to a kid on Passions in Younger Lead. I don't know him, but I voted on the episodes that I saw. He had good scenes. All I can say is if people aren't being nominated, maybe what they chose to submit didn't meet up with [the other tapes]. I would hope that people are voting on what they're seeing, which is what they're supposed to be doing. And that friendships and reputations don't come into it.

Carolyn: So if you were watching tapes of Erika Slezak (Viki, OLTL) and Martha Byrne (Lily, ATWT), and you thought Erika was better, you'd vote for her even though Martha is on a P&G show?

Kim: Absolutely!

Carolyn: Do you think other actors feel that way, too?

Kim: I would hope so. If they don't vote that way, then they're discrediting themselves.

Carolyn: I know people are mad at me, but I don't think I was 100 percent wrong. Should I bring a bodyguard to the Emmys?

Kim: Well, I would avoid Robert Newman (laughs). He felt personally insulted because by making a comment like that you were discrediting the work; the entire day we give up to sit in those rooms and watch our fellow actors. To say we gave high scores to another CBS actor strictly because they're on a CBS show is an insult to our intelligence and our jobs. That was our job that day.

Carolyn: So the fact that the judges were mostly CBS actors and the nominations went mostly to CBS is just a coincidence, because you guys have better actors?

Kim: No, it wasn't a coincidence. There were ABC people who were supposed to be in those rooms that didn't show up. Now, the results are the results. But ABC always ends up winning everything, so what's to bitch about (laughs)? We sat there with 17 nominations last year and won one - for sound.
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